Monday, July 6, 2009

The below was a response I wrote to a friend after he sent me a typical mushy Christian modern parable email claiming that a super-intimate "walk" with God is the highest ideal - which may or may not be the case depending on how you want to look at it. Feedback from all welcomed on this.



Dear friend,

[this is probably putting more energy into this than deserves … but oh well, here it goes…]

Emotional metaphor upon emotional metaphor….. … another cute story with miniscule interpretation of history playing off a twist of metaphors to give the illusion of a “revelation” --- only to trick the reader into somehow still feeling defeated for what the megalomaniac author claims to have with “there is no substitute for unconditional, intimate relationship with God” and holding out still the “hope” that this is actually possible and advisable to me.

Give me a break.

Well… yes…. First of all let me reply with “Well of course, I also want this great big giant spirit friend who will play the role of my father and who also happens to be the one-and-only original maker of all the universe. He can watch out for me, do things for me, protect me from death, be there for me to cry upon his shoulder; he’ll give me meaning and purpose in life and even magical wish-powers and knowledge of the vast eternal worlds that hold the living and the dead, the future and the past.

And all he wants in return is to be loved whole-heartedly.

For sure, I want to get in on this adoption policy.

How do I sign up and how soon can I meet this giant friendly maker of the universe? And can we be best buddies?

Will I have to sort of pretend? You know, have faith that when I talk he is listening and when I’m sorry he forgives me and when I ask for something and he doesn’t give it to me that he was really watching out for my best interests anyway?

Do I have to get with other people who pretend this same talking-to-the-giant-buddy game, so we can confirm each other that “yep, you’ve had some more evidence, too? Well, so have I. This big spirit buddy really is there and he’s watching over me and you both.”


Do I have to really train my mind with lots of ancient stories and writings that when interpreted personally I can feel like this is how the giant spirit buddy is communicating with me? How can I know when he really is talking to me and it’s not just my imagination or wishful thinking or even my own internal neurotic self at work? Should I just “have faith” and that’ll sort of make it so?


I’m not suggesting that it isn’t possible to “love God with all your heart and soul” ….. if you simply change the word “the God” to “the Good” which is what the metaphor is most likely trying to capture anyway.

This could be doable and I could even understand it as the highest command.

But if I make this concept of “Good” into a giant personal spirit buddy daddy deity who lives in the sky, I find it a little harder to stay in touch with Him and to stay in touch with reality at the same time.

I’m not saying there is no God. I’m saying that your “intimate relationship with God” may actually be a personal relationship with Good.

22 comments:

  1. sorry for the emails, I just now noticed the blog!!

    very interesting piece of writing. Sorta reminds me of Star Wars, use the 'force'/darkside type of thing.

    Ancient stories and writings is really the one spot I would hone in on. This great 'good' though, walked the face of the earth. This 'good' did eat/sleep/walk/talk like a man.

    And although it may be 2000 year old bones NEVER FOUND...our superstar Jesus, who made worldwide mania happen and still happening today...has yet to be proven in anyway UNTRUE. T

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  2. Jesus, at the very least and to even many non-followers of Christianity, is an an excellent (and IMHO, the ultimate) example of humanity at its best. What a radical he was for his and any time before or since. As for the personal relationship with God...well it seems to me that a lot of Christians do engage in a mutually confirming practice in order to reaffirm the speculative aspects of the Christian doctrine (e.g. - "the big guy in the sky" belief). That said, I have observed that many Christians "play" God to help and punish others...seems demonstrative of a lack of "real" faith in some of their own doctrine in one way, but a strict adherence to such in another...i.e.- helping others is consistent with following Christ's ultimate example. Is it bad to do this? I don't know, perhaps, its just a matter of impatience on their part...i.e.- they either don't want to wait for God to do something "magical" OR they fancy themselves as "instruments" of the divine, being utilized to "make things right" in their and other people's life...is this right?...I don't know.

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  3. T: No doubt this thought pattern does reek of new agey faith in energies of the cosmos, cast thoughts into the universe and hope for karma vague feeling-thinking.

    Truth is you describe true Christianity and understood in its historic sense. I sure ain't one to cast doubts when people like Franncis A. Schaeffer thought otherwise.

    Hold true to your faith. It is a good faith. It is a reasonable faith. What more could you ask for...

    "If I had some grains of faith, I would put them where they were safe." - RWH

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  4. Jesus - as we understand him from the New Testament writings - was indeed the finest example of humanity to walk the earth. To the extent that followers in fact claim that he himself was GOD. As far as people playing GOD. Well, Jesus himself quoted Psalms and admitted to the people around him "doth the scripture not say that 'ye are gods' ?"

    What he meant by that is open to specualation. He was at least in some sense a true mystic. He alluded more than he talked direct.

    I wrestle with the whole Christianity thing itself. Not with Jesus himself, but with everything that surrounds even.

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  5. I never heard the "ye are gods" quote. Thanks for the info. Will you provide the Psalm as well as the verse in the New Testament where Jesus refers to such?

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  6. Psalm 82:6, Spoken by Jesus in John 10:34...

    vs.6, ye are gods;...vs.7, But ye shall die like men; (what speculation really is there).

    Verse 1 we are called; 'of the mighty'...

    This entire Psalm is all about God condemning those who had perverted justice in their respective offices...

    As for the new agey energies...i.e. prayer and such. Hey, the master prayed, doggone it I will too!! I hear ya friend, many geniuses who previously were believers get inspired by their uninspiration of God and write books about such. I"ll read them!!!
    We all love to believe in this mystical land called heaven. Its enchanting and helps us cope. I hear that!!! At which point do we throw out this Hebrew bible and reduce it to just plain history--good morals--which incidentally is reduced to mans attempt of chronicleing their point of view. If you can cast out that book... your faith will follow!!!

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  7. Now that is the million question my friend...stay tuned!!!! T

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  8. At risk of referring to the cliche, "History repeats itself", some of the fundamental "lessons/teachings" in the Bible certainly are timeless. Given such and the apparent cyclitic (sp?) nature of history, even the pre-modern Christian texts can apply to our modern/post-modern world in some ways. Any religion/belief worth following or at least with significant "staying power" usually qualifies itself to some degree in this manner (i.e. - is timeless to some extent--> may imply vague generalities that can't be dated) either that or is consistently perputuated/renewed by each subsequent generation, possibly as a matter of tradition and adherence to what some may think are archaic beliefs. In more colloquail terms, "Hey man, just because something is old doesn't always mean that it's obsolete". :) BTW The late Jim Morrison also stated that "we're all gods" (Sugerman).

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  9. Sugarman:

    Before any other response comes, that really blew me away!!! Are there any copyrights/infringements on this blog/comments area here?? lol T

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  10. It's this adamant absolutist stance of being THE TRUTH, THE ONLY TRUTH, that deters many and intrigues some. Quite radical really, just like Jesus, but while this will pique the curiousity of some, it is not enough to maintain it without further support. The reference to Jim Morrison was a jest. Ha Ha LOL yada yada yada. BTW - It is my understanding that anything created in the US that is considered intellectual property by the originator, especially in written form (including software) is automatically protected under the federal copyright laws. Challenges to such may require review of materials, but unless things have changed in recent years, one is still protected, whether they formally file rights OR not : ).

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  11. ok ok ok guys (in the form of chris tucker/black guy from Rush Hour(movie with Jackie Chan)..."I was just bullllll-shitttttinnngg, mmaaann), about the copyrights thing.
    I hope you make it to Garner, I am bringing my new guitar!!
    BTW, somewhere in Exodus 20 I think, pharoah is referred to as God!!!
    Bring them remaining grains of faith this weekend, just for kicks ya feel me!! (sorta sounds like a wrestling match be issued). Oh, and bring some Real Ale brew-ha's, my treat!!! T

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  12. T - how am I going to find you again? What's the name of that Camp? ... so I can Google the location.....

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  13. We are staying in Con Can...now now, not can cun!!! Con Can should get you very close and its a good location to throw in there to gps...I'm not sure bout google. Call da padres on their cell. They'll get you there no probs. Make sure and bring 'get-down-funk-a-dina' with cha!!! LoL

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  14. Bull...even using someone else's white paper to use as a foundation/starting point for software development is not only morally wrong, it's illegal. Your stance is worth researching, but I suspect that it is merely lame justification for some possible bad behavior. Sorry, but you like all of us, struggle with integrity (IMO).

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  15. Man you missed a good trip bub! One thing different about this bible we have is its not entirely history. Its not a history book. It also comprises concerns for the future. And even has predicting future events. The OT prophesied the Messiah. Over and Over like a broken record. It boils down to do you believe in the 4000/6000 or so years of history the bible records of Man. Do you have 'faith' that it is the inspired word of God kept up all the years. If God is God, then just what is so hard to believe that God couldn't do this. And not 'Good' at this point...God!!! The bible isn't just good morals/stories/traditions/history and whatever else, it is also future and has an ending. Name one history that just isn't solely about the past? Tone

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  16. I meant...Name one history book solely not about the past?

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  17. I understand, Tone.... and that's as good an argument as any.

    I admire, appreciate, and envy your faith. It does seem simple enough, huh?

    I'm probably a fool for wrestling with my demons in public, but I not mean to give the devil undeserved fanfare by doing such.

    Actually, I'm not sure why I do this. I think I have a vague hope that wrestling the devil openly will somehow help me defeat him.

    My fear of course is that enpower him more when others have to wrestle him.

    [for the record: I am talking metaphorically - or not - you choose your faith.]

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  18. I have made my choice my friend. I believe also in tag-team wrestling!!! When a friend/brethren/family/or whoever needs to tag me in...I come in the ring 'swangin' them fifth-ward-beads...(geto boys)...it means throwing punches in an absurd manner!!! Who was it that deemed it necessary to fight this fight all alone?? Stay public my friend. This is way more inspiring than a stumbling block for me!!! Tone

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  19. I admire the openness that you display, Mitch. It makes you approachable and very human. Thanks for hangin' yo' ass out there...that takes real guts whether I agree with any/all of you postulates or not.

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  20. Tone - are you talking The Island Fifth Ward and if so, are those Mardi Gras beads?...All I know is in the Fifth Ward up here...the only beads that come in handy when needed are the kind at the end of a barrel.

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  21. zip it patter..."before I bust you"...lol T

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  22. I'm your huckleberry, say when : ).

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